Gv betting tips - Early alerts system results review and feedback

Flat lead weights are added to the saddlecloth so that the jockey, with saddle,boots back protector, etc. weighs the published weight. Crash helmet is not weighed to remove temptation to skimp on protection. Jockeys get a lot of stick, mostly from morbidly obese blokes in betting shops who have never sat on a horse in their lives, but there are not many jobs where you are followed at all times by an ambulance with paramedics and a specialised trauma doctor!

Yes, the weight is important. Most racehorses weigh 1000-1200lbs and you would think they would shrug off a 7lb weight rise, some can, most can't. If you are interested you should read up on handicapping to understand 'official ratings' and the effect of weight changes, which varies according to distance, going, and even age of the horse. They are still growing as 2 year olds, more slowly at 3, but will continue to fill out and develop muscle even as 4 and 5 year olds. So a backward 2 year old may be given a 7lb weight hike after running a good race, reappear 3 months later having grown some more , and win easily. An early foaled 2 year old which has grown quicker might be stopped dead in the same circumstances because he has not developed much further. Hope this helps.

Thanks Richard, that makes sense. Its funny when some horses struggle with a little rise when the horse weighs so much anyway, you'd think they'd be able to handle quite a bit of a rise before it starts to take effect.

Was that needed or what? and no rule 4!

Btw admin, If beehive and earlys are similar systems how come the earlys didn't pick up Kung Hei Fat Choy and Red Devil Lads when the odds on them both were 7/1 and maybe even better last night? Bagnor and Silvergrove were the same as what they were last night, Just curious why the same system would tip differently.

thegodlynub wrote:Was that needed or what? and no rule 4!

Btw admin, If beehive and earlys are similar systems how come the earlys didn't pick up Kung Hei Fat Choy and Red Devil Lads when the odds on them both were 7/1 and maybe even better last night? Bagnor and Silvergrove were the same as what they were last night, Just curious why the same system would tip differently.

Without going into things too much detail I would say that we have more / different information the following day and the bee finds far more tips than I do at night so it is inevitable that the bee will find some tips that I dont. My advice to everyone is get on the bee alerts as they are the most profitable tips , I make my living backing the tips and whilst the tips are only £10 pcm and we have places I would advise getting on sooner rather than later because by the end of the year we will be capping the amount of users and there my not be any places available.

Early's ain't far behind with 176pts in 5 months, suppose when you count all 3 beehive it destroys the Early's,  but the Early's is perfect for me. If I was to sign up for beehive, I'll only be able to catch them in the morning and lunch time would this be a gamble? Or if I only do them on weekends only?  If I knew bookies wouldn't ban my accounts I would of quit my job a long time ago :p what about admin has access to all my bookie accounts and gets 50% of the winning and I go to work

thegodlynub wrote:Early's ain't far behind with 176pts in 5 months, suppose when you count all 3 beehive it destroys the Early's,  but the Early's is perfect for me. If I was to sign up for beehive, I'll only be able to catch them in the morning and lunch time would this be a gamble? Or if I only do them on weekends only?  If I knew bookies wouldn't ban my accounts I would of quit my job a long time ago :p what about admin has access to all my bookie accounts and gets 50% of the winning and I go to work

You dont really need to back them all to make a profit so if you do happen to miss a few don't be too concerned
as you will miss losers as well as winners so in the long run it will even its self out.

Personally the bee hive is for the self employed or unemployed ! Who at work can keep checking e mails and placing bets ? I work nights so would miss all the morning alerts ! Don't get me wrong it's a great system and I'm always being urged to get on them but people have gotta be practical. If i was rich enough I'd jack my job and do them 100% but i just think John you'll find the everyday man won't be able to keep up the pace.

Pearso47 wrote:Personally the bee hive is for the self employed or unemployed !   Who at work can keep checking e mails and placing bets ? I work nights so would miss all the morning alerts !   Don't get me wrong it's a great system and I'm always being urged to get on them but people have gotta be practical. If i was rich enough I'd jack my job and do them 100% but i just think John you'll find the everyday man won't be able to keep up the pace.  

I know the bee hive alerts are not suitable for you but we have many users who work full time and still manage to back the alerts. I suppose it mostly depends on your job type and hours of work , my wife runs a small business and worked on that and still managed to find time to follow the bee alerts. She still has the business although she has now wound that down quite a bit as she is earning good money backing the tips.
There were just 2 starter alerts yesterday and on a busy day there are usually only 6 -8 so the number of tips is quite low if you are just following one alert level. Of the 2 starter alerts yesterday 1 won at 4-1 so 3pts profit so £75 if your stake was £25 for backing just 2 tips. The standard level alerted 10 tips with 5 winners and 26pts profit so £650 if your stake was £25.
Its life changing and I would urge anyone who has the time to follow them to just get on

thegodlynub wrote:Early's ain't far behind with 176pts in 5 months, suppose when you count all 3 beehive it destroys the Early's,  but the Early's is perfect for me. If I was to sign up for beehive, I'll only be able to catch them in the morning and lunch time would this be a gamble? Or if I only do them on weekends only?  If I knew bookies wouldn't ban my accounts I would of quit my job a long time ago :p what about admin has access to all my bookie accounts and gets 50% of the winning and I go to work

Totally agree, if we all thought we'd not get closed down we'd all do them full time but those bookies hate winners !!

Admin wrote:

thegodlynub wrote:Early's ain't far behind with 176pts in 5 months, suppose when you count all 3 beehive it destroys the Early's,  but the Early's is perfect for me. If I was to sign up for beehive, I'll only be able to catch them in the morning and lunch time would this be a gamble? Or if I only do them on weekends only?  If I knew bookies wouldn't ban my accounts I would of quit my job a long time ago :p what about admin has access to all my bookie accounts and gets 50% of the winning and I go to work

You dont really need to back them all to make a profit so if you do happen to miss a few don't be too concerned
as you will miss losers as well as winners so in the long run it will even its self out.

Sorry John, but I have to disagree here. I'm put off the bee alerts due to the low strike rates. You're statistically looking at losing runs of 20+ here, so realistically you do have to be in a position to back them all. Imagine if you're in the middle of this sort of losing run and you miss the big winner. You may have to wait another 10 or 15 for the next winner and by then your confidence would be shot to pieces.

The only one I'd say you'd have to back them all is the standard plus, starter you should defo be ok

I suppose the bottom line is it depends on how long a losing run you are prepared to cope with.
If your bank is sufficient for that many losers and you are psychologically fine with it then fair enough.

Great stuff with the Early Alerts thus far, those of us with multiples running have fingers firmly crossed for the last two....shall resist any temptation to cash out!

I also love the early alerts, I do follow the starters when I can but often find the prices in meltdown. I would tentatively guess that the bee is at least partially based on monitoring market moves and if so this is exactly what you would expect. You definitely need to be able to monitor emails and act quickly if you are going to match John's results

When John first launched the Beehive in September last year, i was sceptical and certainly not sold, in fact i blamed it for the poor results in September.......i was ignorant and wrong !!
After many mails to John and much debate, i eventually put all my efforts behind this system...i bet starter, standard and standard plus alerts...plus earlies.
Yes , maybe i have more spare pc time than most, but if you follow the alerts you will make big big money...i bet £25 per beehive selection, and have made @ £1000 profit per week for the last 5-6 weeks since i fully got the trust needed.
My advice to all of you is sign up for the starter, standard and standard plus, it will be one of the best decisions you have ever made.
Dont stick your head in the sand, yes the earlies are great,....They are Rooney,.........The Hive is Messi and Ronaldo rolled into one.....my second income.!

Haha shortyleskunk, love the way you described the systems :p

Richard I did lucky31 but kinda ruined it with the decision of adding jazri :p

thegodlynub wrote:Early's ain't far behind with 176pts in 5 months, suppose when you count all 3 beehive it destroys the Early's,  but the Early's is perfect for me. If I was to sign up for beehive, I'll only be able to catch them in the morning and lunch time would this be a gamble? Or if I only do them on weekends only?  If I knew bookies wouldn't ban my accounts I would of quit my job a long time ago :p what about admin has access to all my bookie accounts and gets 50% of the winning and I go to work

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The p/l speaks for its self, i was 32 points up yesterday..1 day !!..you stuck with the earlies when it went through its worst patch mate,,,the BEEHIVE is the golden goose mate,,,dont ignore...get on starters, standards, standard plus... and watch the money roll in

dibble wrote:

Admin wrote:

thegodlynub wrote:Early's ain't far behind with 176pts in 5 months, suppose when you count all 3 beehive it destroys the Early's,  but the Early's is perfect for me. If I was to sign up for beehive, I'll only be able to catch them in the morning and lunch time would this be a gamble? Or if I only do them on weekends only?  If I knew bookies wouldn't ban my accounts I would of quit my job a long time ago :p what about admin has access to all my bookie accounts and gets 50% of the winning and I go to work

You dont really need to back them all to make a profit so if you do happen to miss a few don't be too concerned
as you will miss losers as well as winners so in the long run it will even its self out.

Sorry John, but I have to disagree here. I'm put off the bee alerts due to the low strike rates. You're statistically looking at losing runs of 20+ here, so realistically you do have to be in a position to back them all. Imagine if you're in the middle of this sort of losing run and you miss the big winner. You may have to wait another 10 or 15 for the next winner and by then your confidence would be shot to pieces.

                      Not true mate, John was his own worst enemy when he introduced the Hive,,,,i hated it...tried it and lost money........NOT NOW !..To his credit he has honed it and has made it more user friendly. The starter , standard and standard plus are now MONSTER PROFIT MAKERS, the results are UNREAL..at £25 a bet , a grand a week has been the return virtually since the New Year.MY ADVICE GET BACK ON BOARD ASAP

shotleyskunk wrote:When John first launched the Beehive in September last year, i was sceptical and certainly not sold, in fact i blamed it for the poor results in September.......i was ignorant and wrong !!
                           After many mails to John and much debate, i eventually put all my efforts behind this system...i bet starter, standard and standard plus alerts...plus earlies.
                              Yes , maybe i have more spare pc time than most, but if you follow the alerts you will make big big money...i bet £25 per beehive selection, and have made @ £1000 profit per week for the last 5-6 weeks since i fully got the trust needed.
             My advice to all of you is sign up for the starter, standard and standard plus, it will be one of the best decisions you have ever made.
                          Dont stick your head in the sand, yes the earlies are great,....They are Rooney,.........The Hive is Messi and Ronaldo  rolled into one.....my second income.!

Rooney !! Rooney !! The earlies are better than that keith ! More like Coutinho for my money.

Pearso47 wrote:

shotleyskunk wrote:When John first launched the Beehive in September last year, i was sceptical and certainly not sold, in fact i blamed it for the poor results in September.......i was ignorant and wrong !!
                           After many mails to John and much debate, i eventually put all my efforts behind this system...i bet starter, standard and standard plus alerts...plus earlies.
                              Yes , maybe i have more spare pc time than most, but if you follow the alerts you will make big big money...i bet £25 per beehive selection, and have made @ £1000 profit per week for the last 5-6 weeks since i fully got the trust needed.
             My advice to all of you is sign up for the starter, standard and standard plus, it will be one of the best decisions you have ever made.
                          Dont stick your head in the sand, yes the earlies are great,....They are Rooney,.........The Hive is Messi and Ronaldo  rolled into one.....my second income.!

Rooney !!   Rooney !!    The earlies are better than that keith ! More like Coutinho for my money.    

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One season wonder...will do well with Real next season

shotleyskunk wrote:

Pearso47 wrote:

shotleyskunk wrote:When John first launched the Beehive in September last year, i was sceptical and certainly not sold, in fact i blamed it for the poor results in September.......i was ignorant and wrong !!
                           After many mails to John and much debate, i eventually put all my efforts behind this system...i bet starter, standard and standard plus alerts...plus earlies.
                              Yes , maybe i have more spare pc time than most, but if you follow the alerts you will make big big money...i bet £25 per beehive selection, and have made @ £1000 profit per week for the last 5-6 weeks since i fully got the trust needed.
             My advice to all of you is sign up for the starter, standard and standard plus, it will be one of the best decisions you have ever made.
                          Dont stick your head in the sand, yes the earlies are great,....They are Rooney,.........The Hive is Messi and Ronaldo  rolled into one.....my second income.!

Rooney !!   Rooney !!    The earlies are better than that keith ! More like Coutinho for my money.    

,
One season wonder...will do well with Real next season

One season wonder ! Tut tut ! Been brilliant since he signed and unless Madrid stump up 100 mill that Brazilian wonder boy ain't going nowhere !

shotleyskunk wrote:

dibble wrote:

Admin wrote:

thegodlynub wrote:Early's ain't far behind with 176pts in 5 months, suppose when you count all 3 beehive it destroys the Early's,  but the Early's is perfect for me. If I was to sign up for beehive, I'll only be able to catch them in the morning and lunch time would this be a gamble? Or if I only do them on weekends only?  If I knew bookies wouldn't ban my accounts I would of quit my job a long time ago :p what about admin has access to all my bookie accounts and gets 50% of the winning and I go to work

You dont really need to back them all to make a profit so if you do happen to miss a few don't be too concerned
as you will miss losers as well as winners so in the long run it will even its self out.

Sorry John, but I have to disagree here. I'm put off the bee alerts due to the low strike rates. You're statistically looking at losing runs of 20+ here, so realistically you do have to be in a position to back them all. Imagine if you're in the middle of this sort of losing run and you miss the big winner. You may have to wait another 10 or 15 for the next winner and by then your confidence would be shot to pieces.

                      Not true mate, John was his own worst enemy when he introduced the Hive,,,,i hated it...tried it and lost money........NOT NOW !..To his credit he has honed it and has made it more user friendly. The starter , standard and standard plus are now MONSTER PROFIT MAKERS, the results are UNREAL..at £25 a bet , a grand a week has been the return virtually since the New Year.MY ADVICE GET BACK ON BOARD ASAP

Not having a pop at John, shotleyskunk, just making a point
Here's a table of expected losing runs vs strike rate
Strike Rate as a % 100 Bets 250 bets 500 bets 1000 bets 2000 bets
1 458 549 618 687 756
2 228 273 308 342 376
3 151 181 204 227 250
4 113 135 152 169 186
5 90 108 121 135 148
6 74 89 100 112 123
7 63 76 86 95 105
8 55 66 75 83 91
9 49 59 66 73 81
10 44 52 59 66 72
11 40 47 53 59 65
12 36 43 49 54 59
13 33 40 45 50 55
14 31 37 41 46 50
15 28 34 38 43 47
16 26 32 36 40 44
17 25 30 33 37 41
18 23 28 31 35 38
19 22 26 29 33 36
20 21 25 28 31 34
21 20 23 26 29 32
22 19 22 25 28 31
23 18 21 24 26 29
24 17 20 23 25 28
25 16 19 22 24 26
26 15 18 21 23 25
27 15 18 20 22 24
28 14 17 19 21 23
29 13 16 18 20 22
30 13 15 17 19 21

dibble wrote:

Admin wrote:

thegodlynub wrote:Early's ain't far behind with 176pts in 5 months, suppose when you count all 3 beehive it destroys the Early's,  but the Early's is perfect for me. If I was to sign up for beehive, I'll only be able to catch them in the morning and lunch time would this be a gamble? Or if I only do them on weekends only?  If I knew bookies wouldn't ban my accounts I would of quit my job a long time ago :p what about admin has access to all my bookie accounts and gets 50% of the winning and I go to work

You dont really need to back them all to make a profit so if you do happen to miss a few don't be too concerned
as you will miss losers as well as winners so in the long run it will even its self out.

Sorry John, but I have to disagree here. I'm put off the bee alerts due to the low strike rates. You're statistically looking at losing runs of 20+ here, so realistically you do have to be in a position to back them all. Imagine if you're in the middle of this sort of losing run and you miss the big winner. You may have to wait another 10 or 15 for the next winner and by then your confidence would be shot to pieces.

This is the reason for different alert levels , if you want to avoid long losing runs and want a high strike rate then the starter alerts are the way to go. Strike rate is meaningless without value and the most important factor is return on investment.

Well done today! Dunno what happened in 7.45 that race looked like a mess, don't think anyone knew what was going on. :p or maybe it was just me :p

richard s wrote:Great stuff with the Early Alerts thus far, those of us with multiples running have fingers firmly crossed for the last two....shall resist any temptation to cash out!

I also love the early alerts, I do follow the starters when I can but often find the prices in meltdown. I would tentatively guess that the bee is at least partially based on monitoring market moves and if so this is exactly what you would expect. You definitely need to be able to monitor emails and act quickly if you are going to match John's results

Hope some of you had decent returns on multiples 3 out of 4 not too bad and good prices