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    Re: Bookies the bad and the ugly

    Post by shotleyskunk on Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:16 am

    Admin wrote:Submersive will be recorded as 9/2 , I really think the 10-1 was probably a bookie error. Very Happy
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    Re: Bookies the bad and the ugly

    Post by Pearso47 on Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:32 am

    shotleyskunk wrote:
    Admin wrote:Submersive will be recorded as 9/2 , I really think the 10-1 was probably a bookie error. Very Happy
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    End of the day a winner is a winner for me !! 10/1, 6's or 9/2 it's all money in the bank ! I don't get too worried anymore about matching the prices. If you do lucky 15's, 31, 63's etc you'll make the profit back anyway.

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    Re: Bookies the bad and the ugly

    Post by thegodlynub on Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:12 am

    I think Submersive deserves this with all the 2nds he's had and really hope he wins for the people that got 10/1. To be fair he was 10/1 with Boyles for a long time, I just didn't have any boylesports account left that wasn't restricted, I managed around £4 between 3 accounts :p

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    Re: Bookies the bad and the ugly

    Post by shotleyskunk on Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:12 pm

    Split my bet on Henpecked..Betvic and Winner...Betvic paid..Winner did not...only pay out after stewards...MICKY MOUSE!

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    Re: Bookies the bad and the ugly

    Post by shotleyskunk on Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:53 am

    shotleyskunk wrote:Split my bet on Henpecked..Betvic and Winner...Betvic paid..Winner did not...only pay out after stewards...MICKY MOUSE!
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    Re: Bookies the bad and the ugly

    Post by Admin on Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:27 am

    No more sports bets but welcome to play casino lol



    this is why , I took a price they offered and in their terms and conditions if you take a price that is greater than sp you will be stopped from placing any bets that are not fixed , fixed odds betting





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    Re: Bookies the bad and the ugly

    Post by richard s on Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:16 pm

    Incredible. Corals make the book (with a hefty overround to assure them of profit) and with gritted teeth offer BOG because without this they will get very little business. Then if the horse shortens in the live market they will deem this unfair and refuse any future bets unless they control the outcome, via the iniquitous on line gaming. Since their software knows where the bets are placed, does anyone believe it cannot influence where that roulette ball falls?

    In any other business this sort of unfair contract would never survive legal scrutiny, but of course Mr Average Punter is never going to challenge a giant company in court and the government have no interest beyond trying to keep their corporation tax take at a reasonable level despite all the online gambling being run through overseas tax havens. The BBC have missed the opportunity for a worthwhie expose with the softball treatment they have offered Corals in their 'Britain at the bookies' series thus far. Don't hold out much hope for tomorrows episode either....


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    Re: Bookies the bad and the ugly

    Post by shotleyskunk on Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:50 am

    I read with interest on a gambling forum , the response from someone who worked for a major bookmaker,when the topic of closed and restricted accounts was posted.
    His 'brainwashed' response was that it was akin to running a corner shop, and that shoplifters were a problem .These shoplifters stole small things like marsbars and cans of coke.However these 'shoplifters' needed banning from the shop, as the small amounts added to a large amount that would make the shop go bust if not dealt with.
    Well presumably if that is how they look at winning customers, and that stereotyping is filtered into the staff at training sessions ,the business is rotten to its core
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    Britain at the bookies review

    Post by Admin on Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:33 pm

    I had hoped for so much more from the recent BBC1 series Britain at the bookies but in the end I think we got pretty much what I expected which was a series promoting the bookies in a mainly positive light. This was a great opportunity to show what truly goes on behind the scenes and how sports betting is just used to facilitate and promote fobts.
    The bookmakers want fixed odds betting which really is akin to running an amusement arcade which if you scratch the surface is all the bookies are. Online they hold all the cards and a few up their sleeve as they can easily monitor and restrict any customers who they suspect might have an edge , now I understand that they cant accept big players to win continuously but I'm of the opinion if you are a bookie you should accept that some customers win and some lose and although I except some restrictions on accounts would need to in place I also think this should be made clear on opening an account and be visible on all pages and betslips. If the bookie was to restrict to a minimum and it was clearly stated on the website then we would all know where we stand and what restrictions could be , even if the bookies restricted accounts to a minimum £5 -£10 stake we would at least know where we stand and would still be able to have a bet if we chose to but instead the bookies just stop us from sports betting or restrict to pence.
    Britain at the bookies gave us a glimpse of these type of restrictions in the first episode when office worker sean was beating the bookie and starting to have his online accounts restricted , this gave me hope for episode 2 and I hoped we would see more of these type of restrictions but that angle was then ignored after only a brief mention in the first episode.
    In episode 2 we got to see the racing post columnist and golf tipster steve who had turned £100k into £25k , I wont be following his tips and this gave the impression that even the best tipsters cant beat the bookie , he and his betting seemed desperate and if he is losing at that rate the bookies would no doubt welcome him into their shops but online he must have had heavy restrictions purely down to the amount he staked but there was no mention of this.
    Then came the bookies favorite the £1 - £5 punter who was not value savvy and was happy to have a small punt at any odds on offer , if you go to the track you need to back before you go if you want any value so although he had luck on his side and he hit a few winners he was truly the bookies friend , the small stakes sports punter , now if it had been a fobt customer you know the bookies friend is then the £50 spin customer Smile
    Also in episode 2 we saw the generous traders offering 5k at 2-1 which was absolutely fine , no problem , what they failed to show was the customers who go in their shops who want as little as £30 on odds as low as 2-1 having bets rung through to traders and restricted to lower amounts or refused completely.
    Episode 3 really made me laugh as a dinner was put on for corals best customers , a nice day out with lunch and a phone call to the traders to get the info on the best chances of the day and all this for his best customers one being a pro punter. So the pro punter backs the traders tips and wins a couple of grand and has a marvelous day thanks to coral , what a fabulous company coral are or at least thats what they wanted to portray and thanks to the help of BBC1 they pulled it off. Now if Coral would like to invite me to dinner at the races then I promise to stake £30k per week in one of their shops and all I ask is you let me bet without restrictions and send me an invite to the next Coral day at the races.
    By the way who thinks the pro punter was an actor , a pro punter who is the bookies friend who still manages to bet online , you couldnt make it up.

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    Re: Bookies the bad and the ugly

    Post by thegodlynub on Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:28 pm

    Got to agree with you admin, I've lost 7 coral accounts probably lasting a maximum of 2 weeks and as little as 3 days, also never been offered a vip to coral races :p

    I think to be offered this you need to fill their pockets up :p

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    Re: Bookies the bad and the ugly

    Post by thegodlynub on Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:29 pm

    Also had to laugh, that guy had 2k in that machine haha

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    10Bet absolutely terrible

    Post by 00yatejb on Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:06 am

    I'm only a month in on the Hive and have had relatively good success.
    However, if anyone is looking to sign up to a new bookies I'd recommend 10Bet being the absolute last bookies you join after exhausting all others. I was attracted by their 50% first deposit bonus, but after only 8 days of placing bets on horses I was told that "Maximum Exposure Has Been Reached". Consequently, I am not banned from placing bets in general but just banned from placing bets on horses. Permanently.
    I recommend 10Bet be a lest resort bookies.


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